“I criticized Kamala Harris for being part of a set of ideas that exists in American leadership that is anti-family. I never, Dana, criticized people for not having kids. I criticized people for being anti-child.” Vance said in an interview with CNN’s Dana Bash.

Vance stands up for family and wants to let the states decide on their abortion plans, and he aspires to implement a new policy to “make it easier for families to start in the first place.” He goes on to say that he wants to bring down housing costs and provide more options for mothers so they can raise their kids in a thriving country.

He has said that if he had been in Mike Pence’s shoes in 2021, he would not have certified the results of the 2020 election: “If I had been vice president, I would have told the states, like Pennsylvania, Georgia and so many others, that we needed to have multiple slates of electors and I think the U.S. Congress should have fought over it from there,” he said in February.